Making a Life Drive Vitality Residence & Lowering EMFs With Targeted Life Drive Vitality (FLFE)

April 4, 2022

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Katie: Whats up, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this matter is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some individuals listening. And I’ll admit there are components of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t absolutely perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life power power, additionally about issues like decreasing EMFs and the way that ties in as properly. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Targeted Life Drive Vitality. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this expertise and the scientific backing for it, and an entire lot of different instructions.

I’m right here with two individuals, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this area, and he’s the scholar of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has an entire set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds somewhat esoteric proper now. However he has lots of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has targeted on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this expertise. So like I stated, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I might what that is and the way it works. However generally, it’s about making a area inside your own home that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here in the present day.

Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.

Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.

Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one specific matter that I feel could be considerably new for the viewers after which lots of completely different subtopics beneath that.

However earlier than we soar into that, I might love to simply let the viewers hear somewhat background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re turning into a farmer to use a few of the issues we’re going to speak about in the present day. And that Clayten was a business fisherman in earlier life. So I might love to simply hear possibly a few of the story of what introduced you each to this work.

Jeff: I might begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I really like science fiction. I really like getting misplaced and like the potential of a a lot larger world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade faculty, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was in search of methods to depart my physique. However in the meantime, each ft had been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term workers, and constructing a acutely aware tradition of type of, you understand, heart-centered enterprise.

And that’s how I met Clayten. He was truly teaching in enterprise as a non secular path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very good. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or truly early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medicine ended. And I’ve meditated along with her, you understand, for the following…doing transcendental meditation by highschool.

So simply early on, I’ve actually been inquisitive about type of what’s behind, you understand, what’s beneath the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging beneath that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my degree of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I assumed I hid so properly. Actually, generally, they had been so properly hidden, they had been unconscious.

However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you understand, and love in these areas of my life. That was type of the trail that took us to the FLFE expertise that we found, which is a consciousness expertise that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.

Clayten: Yeah, properly, as Katie stated, I used to be a business fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I might all the time go. And lots of that I discovered by fishing. I spent lots of time strolling alongside the perimeters of rivers, and I feel in all probability the mixture of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is lowered. And being within the presence of fantastic thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered lots of my peace as a younger man.

And there have been some choices once I was in highschool. Considered one of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I wished to do on this planet. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a type of people who… Now, it’s referred to as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you understand, I wish to have a spot to sleep. I don’t wish to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an previous truck and an previous camper and an previous… I feel they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.

So I drove round Canada for a few 12 months and, you understand, I did type of labor-type jobs. So fishing was one in all them. I labored within the oil area, you understand. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not lots of schooling and coaching, in order that’s the work that was accessible to me.

And I acquired concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually inquisitive about making an attempt to make sense of some issues in my life and on this planet. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one specific means of taking a look at life. And so I select a philosophy and I acquired deeply concerned in that. And that led me into schooling.

I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the schooling area. I used to be a business fisherman for some time. And I type of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for schooling and educating and studying was larger. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historical within the teaching world.

And since I’d spent 11 years on this Japanese-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in non-public faculties, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought-about enterprise their non secular path. And I selected that as a result of, on this planet, evidently enterprise has the ability proper now for good or for dangerous, proper? Prior to now, it might need been the humanities or, you understand, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or spiritual establishments.

So I figured I might do essentially the most good on this planet with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t wish to make an effort, however you type of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do essentially the most good together with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought-about their enterprise as their non secular path.

Jeff and I are gearheads. So we wish to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, once I was in highschool. I took the educational half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was type of technical that means.

And so, ultimately, you understand, and a mix of exploring kinesiology and being inquisitive about type of machines and schooling, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a bunch of inventors who…they had been making an attempt to create a free power gadget for humanity. They usually didn’t try this. However they type of stumbled upon a method to focus lifeforce power on objects.

Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you understand, journey. Yeah, this man was simply type of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like wonderful. And it’s such a highly-charged atmosphere. So I acquired to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a number of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.

Katie: I very a lot resonate together with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply essentially the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude every single day that my work is with different ladies and mothers. As a result of, for me, I feel that’s a part of my life objective is that we assist mothers. We assist not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as an entire. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.

And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, probably, for lots of people listening. So I might love to start out very fundamental and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and possibly give some examples to assist individuals type of perceive and anchor what meaning.

Jeff: Mm hmm. We consider that consciousness is in every single place. That it’s throughout us. And we observe Dr. David Hawkins’ work. Considered one of his books is “Energy vs. Drive.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I might say that we expertise this every single day. That everybody experiences it every single day.

So in the event you’re strolling world wide, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that could possibly be, you understand, a synagogue or church or cathedral, significantly a few of the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they had been designed that means with the structure and the type of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.

So whenever you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an power, like nearly an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to essentially settle down. And I’ve observed that in cathedrals, once I was touring Europe, the place I might stroll within the door, I might really feel just like the nearer I acquired to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it acquired, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness area that’s getting greater and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.

In low consciousness fields, you would expertise in an previous jail, a battleground. Like, in the event you’ve ever been to a type of locations, there’s this type of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, possibly even feelings or ideas might come up. And we consider that thought kinds and feelings could be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such robust broadcasters of our power that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.

So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s type of that feeling individuals speak about, like, “I don’t just like the power of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Nicely, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we consider our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you understand, you’re like wanting over your shoulder, like, what’s happening right here? And that, you understand, helps us to take care of what could be coming. So we consider these fields are in every single place. And what the FLFE expertise does is to activate a excessive consciousness area just like the cathedral really feel.

Katie: Clayten, do you could have any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?

Clayten: You understand, I’ve some sensible examples of this. And possibly one that might not be distinctive to ladies, however I feel they’ll admire. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness area can be your pondering… There’s an plain bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her baby. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as properly. Nevertheless it’s only a completely different connection.

So whenever you’re pondering of any person, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a optimistic thought, after which they name you, they stated, “I used to be simply enthusiastic about you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that. So that might be an instance of a excessive consciousness area.

Now, I imply, that might flip to fret. As a substitute of like consciousness, it might flip to fret and concern. However I might say that the FLFE expertise has some parallels to the capability that people should create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other house.

And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to let you know the story. So I’ve some mates on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to stay in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the top workplace of the corporate is.

And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these individuals. And this girl, she was…there was a bunch of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they referred to as them doulas or it was simply ladies who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it would come to me. Midwives.

So this girl was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a start that occurred. She’d been up a lot of the night time, and this child had been born. And he or she got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and he or she went to return.

And the power that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I stated, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She stated, “Nicely, this child simply acquired born.” And he or she stated, “It’s like a miracle.” You understand, it’s an power of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be similar to, to this present day, I similar to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.

And he or she stated, “You understand, I’m simply pondering of getting one other baby. It’s such an exquisite factor to convey into the world.” And for some motive, I’m getting… I’ve by no means informed that story to very many individuals, however I feel, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of lots of the individuals you serve are moms.

And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a unprecedented power area. As a result of I feel, when a baby will get born, one thing occurs that’s wonderful. And I haven’t seen a start. And I haven’t actually been shut to at least one. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been possibly inside quarter-hour, half an hour.

So, FLFE can’t create that sort of atmosphere, however it does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place type of atmosphere in its personal means. It relies upon, you understand. Individuals have lots of affect on it. We simply can’t make the atmosphere be a sure means. However we will actually have it’s a kind of, you understand, a consciousness degree that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as all people else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.

Katie: I really like that you just used that for instance. I’m truly a doula and have began supply coaching. Most likely, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my youngsters had been born. And I feel you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the consideration of being at many births as properly, and holding house for these ladies. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of start.

And I keep in mind very clearly, when my first baby was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was instant to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I really like individuals in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this degree of affection till this second.”

And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so once we speak about consciousness, I feel you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that possibly you possibly can’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you understand that feeling relating to your youngsters.

I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round lots. I feel generally possibly it will get misused or tied into lots of different issues. However let’s go somewhat deeper on the thought of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Form of stroll us by how that is measured or possibly simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I feel it may possibly really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to type of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as doable earlier than we soar into extra specifics.

Jeff: I might begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you understand, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own youngsters. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we had been speaking about it.

So, you understand, there’s a consciousness area there that will get activated. After which we will take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you stated. And as we stated, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you understand, the place there’s been grief or torture, you understand, tragedy of some form. Actually, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an residence, individuals received’t lease it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness area there.

So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you understand, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you would say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 occasions extra power current within the area. So down beneath, 200 on that map, you understand, there’s lethargy and melancholy and a few of the decrease power, decrease consciousness area. So like, in the event you’re round any person that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness area. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re shifting into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve acquired a lot expertise on this.

Clayten: We do lots of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are type of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these varieties of beings.

In the event you’re taking a look at a few of the feelings beneath 200, usually, the size of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is type of apathy, 100 is concern, 150 is anger, 190 is type of extreme delight. And it’s simply type of that 200 mark is the place issues turn into optimistic.

So now we have braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is motive, whenever you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you understand, skilled requirements, authorized occupation. And 500 is love.

And so, the FLFE atmosphere, we assure it, will probably be at… So now we have a consciousness slider the place you possibly can truly slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It would by no means take power away. However it would add it as much as that degree to make sure it’s at that degree or extra. And you may transfer it from 400 to 570.

So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter degree you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any atmosphere the place there’s a disruption for somewhat bit.

And also you wish to positively affect the atmosphere, however you don’t wish to take individuals’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. However we do add lots of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what individuals make of it.

We even have issues like boosts. You’ll be able to increase the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of now we have a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your personal consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Can we name it that, Jeff? Can we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the identify for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your personal means of referring to it.

Katie: I consider that as I typically discuss in regards to the diet and bodily well being facet. And I say typically to individuals, “You’re your personal main healthcare supplier and your personal well being researcher. And you may work with wonderful practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that accountability resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that accountability for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same concept to this different realm that possibly individuals haven’t thought-about.

And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t executed a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it previously at the very least been skeptical about, and I’m making an attempt to know higher. So I might love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works somewhat bit in the event you don’t thoughts.

Jeff: So type of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so whenever you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the power feels good. So we consider our our bodies are devices, robust devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.

And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you understand, been pioneered by a variety of individuals. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different degree the place it’s the energy of the muscle within the presence of reality. So the idea is that we’re related in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nevertheless you consider it. We’re related to all that’s. And that presence of reality is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the energy of the muscle, you understand, within the presence of a press release.

So the assertion, you understand, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you understand, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, degree of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you understand, robust 200 or extra, robust 400 or extra, robust 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you understand, 520 or extra robust, 530 or extra, 540 or extra robust, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.

So, now we have a crew of people who do that testing. And what we do is we take a look at individually, after which, you understand, evaluate. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve executed hundreds of thousands of those sorts of exams on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.

However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the stress of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you understand, he wasn’t urgent tougher on my arm to maintain it, you understand, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I might put it near my chest, and I’d be robust, robust, till I acquired a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it might be weak. In order that was an attention-grabbing type of a means of measuring the power the that you just’re placing on the arm. And if in case you have one other query or we will move it on to Clayten.

Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. In the event you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, and so they’ll scale them as to how good they’re.

And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I preserve going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few customary changes. After which, you understand, usually, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, and so they’ll push it down and see how robust it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? They usually’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you understand, that’s a type of kinesiology.

I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be informed there’s seven faculties of chiropractic, and one in all them is kinesiology targeted. And that’s the way it appears to be like like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They take a look at the energy of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is completed. And so it’s used lots on this planet. It’s simply the consciousness facet of it’s, it’s type of distinctive. Nicely, it’s an rising area. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.

Katie: Yeah, and I feel I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested by this for a very long time. And type of the concept’s been popularized just lately of the thought of Biology of Perception, and if we consider one thing, that may affect.

And so I’ve all the time questioned, relating to kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you stated it’s centered in reality and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested by that. Like if somebody believes one thing is sweet for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is sweet for them, does that influence it in any respect?

Clayten: One of many methods you’ll take care of that’s you’ll do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You had been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we’ll usually be taught kinesiology collectively. So you could have a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.

So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a job. However what I might do is I might make the optimistic declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one method to handle bias. And one other means is to essentially have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. In the event you get adequate at this, you possibly can measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.

And, you understand, over time, there are methods to… You understand, once we do our property testing, there’s normally at the very least three of us. So there’s methods of in search of statistical validation by imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t assume can be a good assertion. You simply should be taught to handle bias.

Like if there’s a subject, you possibly can take a look at your degree of consciousness of reality on that matter, proper? After which you possibly can take a look at the extent of acutely aware…of your intent in the direction of an final result. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the percentages of you getting good knowledge within the atmosphere, together with testing unknown controls, you understand, earlier than you go in.

So it’s a occupation. Lots of people simply assume, “Oh, I might simply choose up a ebook and be taught it and a half an hour.” It’s like, properly, possibly you possibly can, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.

Jeff: Yeah, I feel the bias, it’s an essential query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why now we have teams, you understand, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” You understand, could possibly be that one particular person has turn into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure degree. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know in the event you’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, whenever you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a swap. So that you’ve gone adverse. So that you truly get the other lead to kinesiology when that occurs.

Yeah, it’s an attention-grabbing topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me do it. After which now we have a crew of individuals within the enterprise that help us.

And it’s actually an attention-grabbing instrument. I imply, you possibly can actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And relating to analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis crew. He’s written a variety of books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been an amazing bridge between science and a few of these new power therapeutic methods. He’s executed fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and other forms of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology examine with us this 12 months. So we’re seemingly to try this this 12 months.

Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of expertise and science, understanding issues which have really type of an age previous and lots of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to observe that development occur. And I might go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.

However I wish to be sure that we truly get again to this expertise, as a result of I feel you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m certain individuals can consider occasions of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my youngsters had been born. But in addition, we will’t, sadly, typically, all of us stay in these locations the place always simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the expertise with this consciousness type of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we will all create these greater consciousness fields in our personal lives.

Clayten: Nicely, we type of stumbled upon a expertise that existed. The intent, as I stated, was to create a free power gadget for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, instrument and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful when it comes to technical expertise. And the way in which he associated to divinity was actually by making stuff. You understand, that’s simply how we did it. And a few individuals are farmers or household man or household ladies or, no matter, businesspeople. And his means was to make stuff. I feel it’s essential to do not forget that intent issues lots. And divinity expresses by every little thing. It expresses by nature. It’s kinda simpler to search out, for me, there. Some individuals specific this by expertise.

And this expertise was born out of intent to serve. And he spent lots of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, lots. After which we took it to an entire different degree. So there’s an rising group of applied sciences which are in a position to assist humanity, similar to the interior combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.

I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you understand, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you understand, the ladies in your life that you just wish to join with. So, you understand, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and the next energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the way in which that we see the world. And that’s the way in which that we body it.

And there’s all varieties of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner gadget, which is a makes use of a optimistic electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been entering into Jerry Tennant’s work somewhat bit extra. He talks in regards to the significance of voltage within the physique, and create your optimistic voltage. So there’s plenty of rising applied sciences on the market that may assist us to be more healthy. And, you understand, we’re one in all them.

Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of pondering of somebody after which, you understand, feeling love and sending them love. What we consider occurs is there’s a area activated round the individual that’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, and so they profit from that. And, you understand, distant prayer, a few of the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic medication, at a distance is similar mechanism.

There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you would say, a quantum power system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with related expertise to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive pace alternating present working by coils and plates. And it was creating an lively area by that oscillation.

And it’s advanced since then to not want the electrical energy in that means. However basically ideas, similar to us figuring out somebody, you understand, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it could be a telephone quantity, which identifies a mobile gadget. It could be an tackle that identifies a property. It could be coordinates, you understand, and the house across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sector’s activated at that location. So similar to human consciousness, our system works.

And so we’re placing into this method written directions that determine that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you understand, that’s activating the sector. We’ve executed a variety of experiments alongside the way in which to say, “How can we quantify this?” You understand, how will you see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?

Nicely, what we’ve executed is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sector in an atmosphere, vegetation are rising a lot quicker. You understand, we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% enhance in progress. And we’re seeing an identical type of 14% to 29% enhance in yield in a big farm examine that we did this previous 12 months, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historical grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. They usually had been measuring the bushels per acre with their subtle farm tools. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% enhance in yield.

I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you understand, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You’ll be able to see it within the plant progress. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE prospects. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we must always say that the place individuals…it’s $35, for the very best finish. After which for households, now we have some cheaper price ranges for kids’s telephones and issues like that, all the way down to $10 or $12 a month.

However that activation within the area, individuals had been seeing their vegetation rising, and so they had been seeing their yards wanting greener, and their shrubs wanting greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you understand, experiments. And that’s type of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the purchasers and from our personal experiences within the area. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve executed some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve executed experiments on the FLFE atmosphere. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis crew are engaged on a variety of different experiments.

Clayten: Nicely, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you possibly can go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digicam in an atmosphere which confirmed much less chaos within the atmosphere, extra concord. Now we have six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place individuals had, you understand, these issues that they put in your physique, and so they measure your brainwaves.

Jeff: EEG.

Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, however it was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which are related to, you understand, peace and concord, government features as properly. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have executed. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.

Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of fogeys speaking about adjustments of their youngsters, significantly round homework and faculty efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force power in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that actually enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force power accessible, it comes into the physique and, you understand, people who apply yoga would possibly know it’s prana. In Chinese language medication, it’s Qi. And that stream of Qi by the physique is absolutely essential for our well being.

When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce power, they’re all the identical factor. Within the atmosphere, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s components of the mind which are starved for power as a result of they’re working actually arduous, one in all our FLFE, what we name packages, our options within the area, is for extra power to go to the areas the place there’s the least power accessible. And in order that has proven up in individuals simply feeling like they’ve extra power by the day and efficiency.

At IONS – and this was a small examine, and we have to observe it up with a bigger examine, that’s the type of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary examine – there was a rise in cognitive perform with a examine group who had been in an FLFE atmosphere in comparison with people who weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE atmosphere prior. In order that lifeforce power accessible to the physique is among the common rules that we speak about. Loads of yogis and other people in several Japanese philosophies wish to focus prana by chanting and breath management, you understand, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra power in an area. After which, we’re a expertise so as to add much more power.

Katie: I’ll be sure that I, you understand, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll ensure that’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I wish to be sure that we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the parking zone to come back again to in a minute.

However first, I’d love to know, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the expertise with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally somewhat bit sophisticated. However are you able to clarify somewhat bit extra tangibly for individuals who could have bother greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, targeted? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how can we focus it on someplace that’s distant? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.

Clayten: Nicely, now we have a machine. And as Jeff stated, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls power from what some individuals name the ether. It simply pulls power from the atmosphere. And it focuses it and ultimately concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness area. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was once about this large. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. After we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.

You understand, “Expensive divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you understand, they’ve acquired an issue with their liver. They acquired actually dangerous psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you set the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they might really feel a optimistic profit, and possibly a few of their psoriasis went away.

So then we, you understand, did extra analysis on well being and possibly found that, “Nicely, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we will make these extra subtle requests over time. And sooner or later, this gentleman was, properly, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came visiting to the house. It was a unprecedented house. And he would cost up these crystals. And so sooner or later he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this house and was charging it up.

And he pulled it out, and the telephone rang, and it was a good friend, and he was speaking to his good friend, and he was on the telephone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the telephone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high power round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you understand, after about two weeks, he observed that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his mates, to individuals everywhere in the world, and so they had been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.

So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the individuals within the machine, after which individuals would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is type of ridiculous, proper? As a result of in the event you ship it by mail, and so they solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have per week when it acquired to ship in a single day, and it might price some huge cash.

So then we found out that we might take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you would put that within the machine, and it might cost a crystal from the opposite facet of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and other people had been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was primarily based upon the precept, as Jeff stated earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.

What we ultimately found out is we might put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness area on the backside of the output stack larger and larger and larger. So it’s like three ft tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you understand, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then sooner or later, we figured that we might put directions in there to inform the expertise to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same area wherever on this planet. In order that was the evolution of it.

So now now we have this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff stated. Like, “You understand, please do that. Please try this. Please do that.” All these good issues you possibly can think about that you’d ask for somebody that you just cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all this stuff to occur. And, you understand, we will’t actually management what occurs. We do have lots of affect over the extent of consciousness on the atmosphere. After which we make all these requests. After which, evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is absolutely immune to the optimistic requests, properly, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we will’t make you could have the life you need, however it does offer you 10 occasions extra power with each enhance in your degree of consciousness.

So, let’s say, proper now, the typical residence in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the typical, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a type of factors is 10 occasions extra power. So it’s a really refined power. However you could have that rather more power to give attention to the belongings you need and create the life that you just’re intending. In order that’s type of the way it works.

Katie: Jeff, did you could have any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?

Jeff: No, I feel that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.

Katie: Yeah, I figured that may result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, lots of mothers, this can be a top-of-mind matter as a result of, clearly, now we have rather more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair many years in the past and definitely than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s an enormous matter for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.

So I might love to listen to, I do know you guys have executed analysis on this and that there’s a means that this truly might help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us by and clarify what’s happening in that state of affairs?

Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her degree of consciousness to achieve our promised degree. On daily basis, new properties are available on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we observed, we had been getting properties that weren’t on the degree. They had been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property by utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the shopper. And we’d ask if something’s modified. They usually had been telling us, very persistently, {that a} good meter, you understand, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply acquired turned down throughout the road, or we simply acquired a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness atmosphere and a brand new EMF affect.

And so, we realized that, you understand, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being degree, decrease power degree, and fewer lifeforce power there. That’s type of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at power or consciousness reducing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are optimistic, you understand. The power that our hearts emit once we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which are optimistic, from the solar.

So what we did is we researched, you understand, what’s the most acceptable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you would attempt to block and deflect, soak up – in the event you’re deflecting, it’s going to any person else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it turn into optimistic. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you possibly can experiment with at residence. You will get sheets of shungite, and you’ll put it on to a router, or onto a sensible meter financial institution.

And what we’ve executed with the FLFE expertise is, so like I stated, you need to again up just a bit. So we consider that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you may take a look at homeopathy and different signifies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we consider that’s the energetic essence of that materials.

And so, you possibly are entering into multidimensional, maybe, matters. However we had been in a position, we consider, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which are reducing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. You understand that we had been planning this and the way in which we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we develop to our workers. After which we develop it to our prospects. However we didn’t…. Individuals had been simply speaking about it. They usually stated, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I wish to do that as quickly as doable.”

So we did a beta group with prospects who had been self-selecting. You understand, they had been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after individuals got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the atmosphere with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting units. And sooner or later, they turn into optimistic. So there’s some overlay of optimistic power, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on high of this EMF wave.

However we all the time wish to take a look at. So we had this preliminary survey. And other people had been saying that it was the perfect sleep, you understand, that they had been in a position to sleep the following night time higher than they’ve in simply years. In different individuals the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My anxiousness degree dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we consider that in an atmosphere the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the harm of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us every single day. And for me, personally, it’s anxiousness. I really feel like pressure in my muscle tissues once I’m in an atmosphere that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself stress-free. And that’s what lots of people reported.

And lots of anxiousness with youngsters too. We get lots of testimonials the place individuals say when the service first got here on, youngsters turned much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So now we have that analysis, and now we have some managed blinded research coming by a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, individuals which are EMF delicate. They usually received’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month examine. So we’re within the strategy of getting that going.

Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site at the moment, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the refined power of FLFE that you need to discover the best units to measure that affect. Some units simply don’t choose it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digicam was one thing that might actually measure the affect.

So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digicam examine, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was making an attempt to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He may not have referred to as it that. However they might be in an atmosphere, and they’d do, you understand, experiments the place they might measure the atmosphere with the GDV digicam. After which they would go away the atmosphere and focus power on it and see what would occur within the atmosphere with a GDV digicam.

So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% certain he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, until I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they had been taking a look at what’s the impact of this educating, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an atmosphere. So we use the identical practitioner, and now we have proof of that on our web site, as properly. So, I imply, we’re speaking about lots of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these specific within the 3D bodily world, and now we have, you understand, proof that pertains to proving that. And now we have extra coming.

It looks like we was once so enthusiastic about our proof, after which now we have a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting increasingly more, so we’re trying to have what we name a gold customary in analysis and growth on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many assets there are in different areas.

Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the perfect or somebody making an attempt to…is the perfect researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no automated billing. You truly should work to turn into a subscriber after the free trial is over.

However the individuals have a management panel, and so they can flip EMF mitigation off and so they can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need individuals to strive it out. And you may flip the service on and off, you are able to do the increase that we stated, to lift the extent. You’ll be able to decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary degree of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE neighborhood feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to try this.

And we discover that, primarily, ladies, our viewers, you understand, our neighborhood is usually ladies. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. In order that they actually look to see what’s occurring with their youngsters and possibly with their husband, their companion. In order that they do blinded research. You understand, it’s a method to see what’s occurring. And a few of the tales are actually touching.

Katie: I really like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your personal main healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an amazing circle that we created there.

And I really feel just like the EMF matter might turn into its personal complete podcast. And hopefully will probably be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I really like that you just talked about the thought of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I feel, I’ve stated this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our fashionable world. We will’t absolutely conceal from them. Even when we lived in the course of nowhere, they now are in house and directed on the planet, we will’t keep away from them.

In order that brings the query of how can we mitigate? Or I really like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how can we take a look at that shifting ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced expertise and easy EMF meters, they may take a look at the presence of these issues, they won’t take a look at the impact on the physique. And I feel that’s the precise essential query as a result of one thing could be current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re not likely measuring what we predict we’re measuring. And so, I really like that you just guys are getting very particular in that analysis.

And I really like that you just introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are great sources of EMFs that I feel typically get discounted. And I’m an enormous fan of telling individuals, “If you get up, go outdoors within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s among the best medicines you may get and it’s free.” And that you just type of tie in that idea into this expertise, which I do know you’ve talked about.

I’ll ensure that that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink shall be at wellnessmama.fm. And you can even be taught. There’s a lot extra data in your web site than now we have time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I stated, possibly we will circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as increasingly more analysis develops from you guys.

However I do really feel like we had an incredible place to begin and engaging dialog about this matter. I do know, like I stated at the start, this can be a new idea for lots of people. It may be arduous to understand. You talked about some assets, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and want to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I wish to respect your time and the viewers time in the present day. However earlier than we wrap up, I might love to listen to if there are any books which have had a extremely profound influence on both of your lives and in that case, what they’re and why.

Clayton: Perhaps, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology lots. And Dr. Hawkins’ first ebook, “Energy vs. Drive,” it’s a New York Instances bestseller. I fairly properly canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. You understand, I opened it up and overlook to shut it. And, in fact, that impacts binding. So that might be one for me.

I might say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a ebook I feel it’s referred to as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been an enormous one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Nicely, I’ll move over to you, Jeff.

Jeff: I feel the current ebook that’s had a big influence on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its in depth analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past likelihood. You understand, they’re simply nearly unimaginable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the way in which to some both way of life or connection to another person that may fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a means of divinity talking, you would say, or a route within the stream of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to essentially learning synchronicity. In order that was one that actually, actually acquired me.

Katie: That may be a new advice for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I stated, I do know we went into some matters which may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you just guys have lots of analysis. If individuals are inquisitive about studying extra or possibly really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how one in all this stuff we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, in the event you’re listening whilst you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you would discover all these within the present notes.

Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It could possibly be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I really like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I really like this particular person greatest on this second? However I might love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you could have.

Clayton: I’ll begin with that, possibly to provide you a second to assume, Jeff. I didn’t know you had been a doula. Otherwise you had been concerned in birthing different youngsters. So I don’t know if that’s an excellent synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply acquired informed to inform that story. Generally, it’s attention-grabbing to surprise the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s attention-grabbing. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you understand, once we consider there’s angelic realms, and whenever you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different individuals, you get helped.

And I feel love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of individuals you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we type of examined once we had been taking a look at speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares in regards to the individuals she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some motive, my inside science geek desires to simply go away individuals with a doable experiment, apart from all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Nicely, truly this does relate to the management panel.

You understand, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is inquisitive about that, you would put your palms in your router after which have any person flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a sensible meter. Good meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however good meters, it’s like, wow, the power, once I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which once I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and loosen up. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a extremely sensible, you understand, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you possibly can simply strive, you understand. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re type of geeks, so I simply attempt to move that on.

Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I might say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that start, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply in the present day. Like, it’s occurring proper now.

And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we will then use to entry anytime that we have to increase, you understand, that we’re in a, you understand, robust state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our persistence, to name in that peak second, that area to activate that area round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply go away with that.

Katie: I adore it. I feel that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for in the present day. However hopefully future conversations to come back. And for all of you listening, undoubtedly take a look at the opposite analysis accessible on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. In contrast to most issues on the web, you possibly can truly simply strive it. You don’t should enter your bank card and provides them your first baby or something loopy to strive it. You’ll be able to simply do it.

And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I stated, a subject that we’re all going to take care of in our lifetimes. And I feel there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply dwelling in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here in the present day and sharing your analysis, which is, I feel, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.

Clayten: Thanks, Katie.

Jeff: Thanks, Katie.

Katie: And as all the time, because of all of you for listening and sharing your Most worthy assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us all in the present day. We’re so grateful that you just did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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